Vibeke: Hello Susan. I am so happy that you said yes to having this conversation together with me! I have been admiring your work for quite a while now and i am very excited to get the chance to learn more about both you and your work.
Susan: Hello, Vibeke, and thank you for
inviting me to talk about my life and weaving here, on A Butterfly
in My Hair.
Vibeke: A little bit about you...what you do?
Susan: I am a design weaver with a weaving
workshop and retail store called Avalanche Looms. The store and
workshop are on my farm in a valley town, Avalanche, Wisconsin. There
are just 10 houses here on the West Fork of the Kickapoo River.
Avalanche Looms seemed like a good name, and a little funny. I work
by myself, but my store is open several days a week, and people come
in to shop, and visit. I like this arrangement very much.
Vibeke: When did your interest for weaving start and how long have you been doing it now?
Susan: I
can tell you how I got here. More than 30 years ago, my husband and I
left our jobs north of Detroit. I was a book editor, and he owned
an art gallery. But we were tired of our suburban life, and wanted to
live in the country where we could live more self sufficiently, grow
our own food, build our house, make our own clothes. We bought a run
down, beautiful 100 acre farm in Avalanche, the farm we still live
on. We didn't have a clue about what we would do for a living, but
we were confident we’d think of something. We had many naïve and
romantic ideas.
At
first we farmed, until my husband found work he liked better as a
builder. I was at home, taking care of the large garden, the
chickens, and some heifers.
I
was also writing fiction, and frustrated with what I was doing.
We hadn’t made many friends, or much money, either. I began to
think I was a person who would never be satisfied. I was lonely.
Though I was still glad to have left our old life behind, the new one
didn’t seem so promising.
Then, everything changed. I was pregnant with my first daughter, and I taught myself to weave on an old Norwegian immigrant built barn loom. We live in an area of Wisconsin settled by Norwegian immigrants, and there are some of these old looms around, built by hand, with trees they cut on their farms 100 years ago. My neighbor had one, and asked me if I would store it for her. We had just built a new workshop for my husband, and I had said I wanted a studio upstairs. I set the loom up there, and learned to weave. Learning to weave is not rocket science, as people have told me, but it was still a big accomplishment for me. Having a baby and becoming a mother wasn't rocket science, either, but it was the most important and hardest work I've ever done.
Then, everything changed. I was pregnant with my first daughter, and I taught myself to weave on an old Norwegian immigrant built barn loom. We live in an area of Wisconsin settled by Norwegian immigrants, and there are some of these old looms around, built by hand, with trees they cut on their farms 100 years ago. My neighbor had one, and asked me if I would store it for her. We had just built a new workshop for my husband, and I had said I wanted a studio upstairs. I set the loom up there, and learned to weave. Learning to weave is not rocket science, as people have told me, but it was still a big accomplishment for me. Having a baby and becoming a mother wasn't rocket science, either, but it was the most important and hardest work I've ever done.
Vibeke: When you first started with this craft what did you make and how did it develop?
Susan: I started out weaving with rags. I always loved old rag rugs, their soft worn textures, and colors. Rag weaving offered so many possibilities for color, texture and design. And rags are not precious materials. They were available in every thrift shop, or rummage sale.
In the end, I
had two floor looms in that studio, my sewing machine, a book press,
along with book shelves, toy shelves, a hammock a double bed, a
dollhouse, and a little Jotul wood burning stove, with a Japanese
teapot on top. When they were young, our three (!) kids, and the dog,
and the cat, stayed with me while I wove. It was a cheerful, bright
place, and I was so happy to have that place to work. It was a very
important change for me, to have a separate studio. I spent at least
four hours a day weaving, and I got better at it. I didn’t do so
much housework, or laundry, or clean the bathroom too often, because
it was out of sight in the house. We all survived. Oh, and I never
wove our clothes. Good, because with the little time I had to work
on it, we would have been mostly naked.
Vibeke: And how do you work now many years after you first started this craft?
Susan: These days, I like to work on three looms at a time. I like to start my weaving day on my old barn loom, weaving linen and paper flower weaves. I call them, transparencies, like the Finnish make. I also call them House Blessings. I don’t change this design, and though it involves many steps, I don't have to think about them, at all. I like to hear the rustle of the white paper yarn flowers, the sound of the brush swishing in the cup of water, that I use to open the yarn into petals, the click of the shuttle, the swing and thunk of the heavy beater on the old barn loom. It is very calm, and ordinary. Outside the window, birds fly in to the feeder, and the sun comes in the east window. No matter what time of year it is, I am in my white paper flower garden, with the taut spaced linen warp, and the simplicity of plain weave.
On another loom I may have scarves. I have been weaving a series of inlaid "Cross" scarves lately. The bast fibers, mainly Swedish linen, cotton and hemp are my favorite yarns. I start each scarf with a section of design that I repeat in every scarf, changing some colors. I use some of my favorite designs from the previous scarf in the next one, and I improvise with color and pattern for the rest of the scarf, and so the design transforms.
On
another loom I usually have a rag weave. Instead of weaving rag rugs,
though, I've been weaving long bolts of fabric made from rag strips
and yarns, with inlays. These are very improvisational weaves. Some
of the inlays are rosepath patterns that fill squares and crosses.
With these bolts of fabric I sew cushions, or curtains for my
"bachelor cupboards", made from old honey-bee boxes. The
inlay squares and cross designs hold many different meanings for me.
Sometimes the squares are bee boxes filled with the activity of the
hive, or sometimes windows into an imaginative landscape, revealing
the pattern that is hidden in the threading of the loom. Once, a
square was a television screen with bad reception.
The
cross I weave is a design that has a long history in ancient weavings
and not one that I associate with the Christian symbol. Native
Americans used it to represent the 4 cardinal directions, which is
more what it means to me. Mainly, it is an easy block form to
weave, and I like to fill it with a diagonal goose eye design.
Vibeke: Have there been a specific artist that has inspired you and why?
Susan: Pia Wallen, the Swedish modernist who designed the iconic Crux blanket, has been my weaving hero. She said she worked with felt because it was one of the fundamental elements in a sub-polar climate, along with grain, potatoes, salt, herring, wood, furs and iron ore. She called the Nordic countries the Felt Belt. She has also said she is not inspired by nature, but by things made by other people. Folkloristic textiles filled her with passion, and she refined elements from that in her work. She also felt it was her mission to carry on cultural heritage, develop it, bring it up to date, and to contribute to elevating the status of textile art, shamefully low, she thought, because textiles have always been women’s work.
Susan: Pia Wallen, the Swedish modernist who designed the iconic Crux blanket, has been my weaving hero. She said she worked with felt because it was one of the fundamental elements in a sub-polar climate, along with grain, potatoes, salt, herring, wood, furs and iron ore. She called the Nordic countries the Felt Belt. She has also said she is not inspired by nature, but by things made by other people. Folkloristic textiles filled her with passion, and she refined elements from that in her work. She also felt it was her mission to carry on cultural heritage, develop it, bring it up to date, and to contribute to elevating the status of textile art, shamefully low, she thought, because textiles have always been women’s work.
I
felt the same way about making things on the loom, traditional,
simple, rustic, and modern. I like to make textiles that meet at the
threshold of art and function. That is what I hoped to do, anyway. I
am also inspired by things made by other people, old rag rugs and
contemporary artists. And I agree with Wallen, that the status of
textile art is shamefully low, because it is mainly women’s work.
All of my grandparents were immigrants. My grandfather came from
Northern Sweden, at the Arctic Circle, and I do think of myself as a
Northern weaver.
Much
of what I weave comes from a curiosity about the story of their
coming to America in the late 1800's and early 1900's. What it must
have meant to leave their families in uncertain lives, and not ever
to return. Post cards and letters weren't frequent. So many things
were never said, or written. How difficult it was for them to live
here, once they had made the decision. I have a paper weave called
“All My Eggs in One Basket” which is inspired by my grandmother,
who had to leave her family behind in Finland, in a terrible civil
war, to come here, alone, when she was just 19 years old. How brave,
she was. She has not been the only one to come to America to escape a
war.
"A rug is a path. It is a record of many choices (color, texture, mood,
balance) made by the weaver as she follows her hunches of which is the best way
to go, what next, and next, and next. Off of the loom, and on the floor, the
rug is an actual path. Wide enough for a person to walk its length, for a
moment or two, along the path the weaver made. Choosing to weave rags is also a path."
I have always had a special thing for rags! It is so much history in them. My mom have
some of the old rags that my grandmother weaved herself (some of them she made together with her own mother) and both my mom and i look at them as
treasures. Do
you have a special feeling about rags too and also about the process of making
them?
Susan: I’m
interested in the paths we all take, the choices we make, and our
stories.
A rug is a path. It is a physical
record of many choices (color, texture, mood, balance) made by the
weaver as she follows her hunches of which is the best way to go,
what next, and next, and next. Off the loom, and on the floor, the
rug is an actual path. Wide enough for a person to walk its length,
for a moment or two, along the path the weaver made. Choosing to
weave rags is also a path. I’ve learned to pay attention and trust
my eye as I weave.
Vibeke: Other artists that have been an inspiration to you in your weaving life?
Susan: I’ve been inspired by many artists
in my weaving life, Chiaki Maki, Reiko Sudo, Anu Tuominen, Jokkum
Nordstrom, are some of the artists whose work ignites my
imagination. Imagination is the best part of being human, and I
believe everyone has an imagination. Our imaginations are meant to
meet and make sparks. All of our minds together will bring new ideas
into the mix, new combinations. I’m so grateful to meet and know
the artists I have found through the internet and blogging. To be
able to connect with other artists around the world, as you arranged
so well in your Advent project, is simply wondrous.
Vibeke: Dear Susan this has been such a wonderful conversation, SO interesting and inspiring! I want to thank you for taking the time and also for all that you have shared here with us. I have always had a love and interest for weaving but now i feel even more inspired and drawn to this craft than ever before. AND i also have to say that i find your work deeply beautiful, soulful and unique....just as i find you as a person too!
Susan: Thanks for the chance to talk about
weaving here. I hope that someone reading this may feel more
confident to start weaving, if they have considered it. It’s not
rocket science. Weaving allows so much to happen. In weave you can
build textures, create contrast, blend colors like painting. Color,
light and shadow are shifting and dynamic. Appearances constantly
change, day, night, sunshine, shadow, liquid, transparent, opaque.
Trying to capture this mysterious changing realm, and make it into
richness in the surface of a weave is endlessly fascinating. I
believe a weave, even a plain rag rug, can be like a poem or a
painting, making something meaningful, and possibly beautiful, with
what you have.








dear vibeke and
ReplyDeletedear susan
what a fine conversation!
i have printed it so i can
read it over and over again
your story, susan, about your move to the farm
the frustration, being lonely
and what you say about being mother
the most important and hardest work
touched me deeply
and besides that
i LOVE your work
and am the proud owner of
a beautiful cross made by you
thank you
with love
Patrice A.
xo
I loved learning about Susan -and really enjoyed visiting her blog. Her post about the meteor strike is so very good.
ReplyDeleteWonderful interview Vibeke. I love this work so much x
ReplyDeleteThose paper white weaves and the frosted windows - the Crux pattern and the towels - all new to me and I feel once again that reading your blog, dear Vibeke, is always something very special! Thank you.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for featuring a conversation with Susan - I love her work and I look forward to her blog always. This conversation series is so inspiring. I am always learning about new, beautiful, powerful, graceful, talented makers - thank you so much for sharing.
ReplyDeleteWhat a treat this conversation was. Thank you so much :)
ReplyDeleteBeautiful work and as usual a lovely, thoughtful conversation. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteI love these conversation posts Vibeke!
ReplyDeleteThis was such an insight into the work of an artist and maker I admire very much. Her work is so beautiful.
xx
Thank you so much for sharing your story Susan! I so enjoyed learning little bit about you. I have loved your work for a long time now on flickr...
ReplyDeleteIt is beautiful what you said : " I’m interested in the paths we all take, the choices we make, and our stories. A rug is a path. ..." and I admire your path and choices you made - in how you live and in your work.
I imagined you weaving and three little children and a dog and a cat staying around you - that made me smile :)
Thank you both Vibeke and Susan!
ReplyDeleteAnd hello to Susan from another Wisconsinite!
Weaving seems like it must be very peaceful work, I admire your pieces very much.
Be well.
What an amazing conversation.
ReplyDeleteSusan, your work is beautiful and the color and textural combinations inspiring.
Like Patrice, I've found myself re-reading this piece and may have to print it out!
Thanks V, for bringing Susan to my attention.
Hope you are well, dear friend.
xo, j
What an amazing conversation.
ReplyDeleteSusan, your work is beautiful and the color and textural combinations inspiring.
Like Patrice, I've found myself re-reading this piece and may have to print it out!
Thanks V, for bringing Susan to my attention.
Hope you are well, dear friend.
xo, j
the magic that happens when a woman (or man)
ReplyDeleteand her craft meet!
and, like Patrice, i
'am the proud owner of
a beautiful cross made by you', Susan -
i'm so grateful to both of you.
x